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john boehner has had permanent damage done to him by the failure to pass plan b, the way he was ultimately kind of on the sidelines of the negotiations. winners, two, joe biden and mitch mcconnell, proving as they did with the debt ceiling and in 2010 with the bush tax cuts, they know how to get things done. >> luke, let's talk first about the breakdown of the vote. in the house vote last night, only 85 republicans voted for this deal. the speaker, as you pointed out last night, showed some guts in actually voting for it. >> speakers ordinarily don't necessarily vote. sometimes they vote on big bills, but especially with this big vote where he knew cantor and mccarthy were going to vote against it. he made a decision he should be on the yes side of this, for whatever reason, for conversations i've had, look, he wanted to be out in front to tell his republican colleagues this is the best deal they could get in this situation and wanted to put the tax issue to bed finally and felt his support was much needed to be shown, especially after what mitch mcconnell did in the senate
, the senate is working against the clock, and speaker boehner, yeah, he's m.i.a. >> no new negotiations are scheduled. >> congress has five days to strike a deal before the end of the year deadline. >> they're calling it the fiscal cliff. [ speaking foreign language ] >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> let's take the american people out of the line of fire in terms of taxes. >> it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> i have never known john boehner not to have a plan. >> it seems pretty dark right now. >> it looks like there's no way there's going to be any deal done. >> so i say to the speaker, take the escape hatch we've left you. >> we're not going to get anything done that doesn't involve some measure of compromise. >> it's not 100% sure that's going to work any longer, and now that we know how fanatical the fanatics are. >> it's like blah, blah, blah. >>> a very busy day here in washington and we want to take you right to the senate floor where senator mitch mcconnell is act
relationships. politico reports on an encounter between speaker boehner and harry reid in the white house lobby. go [ bleep ] yourself, boehner sniped, as he pointed his finger at reid, according to multiple sources present. speaker boehner refused to bring forward a bill funding emergency aid for victims of superstorm sandy. this is how republican peter king responded this morning. >> john boehner has been personally helpful over the years, so it pains me to say this, but the fact is, the dismissive attitude that was shown last night towards new york, new jersey, connecticut, typifies, i believe, a strain in the republican party. we cannot believe that this cruel knife in the back was delivered to our region. >> now, unfortunately, these leaders will still need to work together, and soon. with one deadline down last night, the president has already begun positioning himself for the next fight. >> we'll negotiate over many things. i will not have another debate with this congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they've already racked up through the laws that they passed. let
obama will be deadlock. but i it's something he said to john boehner leaving any room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions? what the they're planning this k in from boston to houston threatening to strike you in the wallet. eric: read the headlines and they say that president is giving up his vacation takes toe a fiscal cliff deal, but is there any room for negotiation? let's talk about it a little bit. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last-ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge some compromise to avert a fiscal cliff which will kick in in six days if nothing isone done. those are the headlines are we talking about is cutting his vacation short in tha and that l well and good. is there anything that can be done because they really seem to be at an impasse before christmms, the republicans in the houseors, imploded and a ve, very tight spot and i suspect if there is to be a deal it'll be a pretty on powering one for all involved. eric: john boehner, putting it up on the screen. $800 billion in tax revenue on the t
in place. >> is john boehner sticking to the old rule, the denny hastert rule, that you need a majority to bring it up for a vote. if the majority is not there of the republicans who are the majority in the house, he is not going to bring it up for a vote, or are they discarding that give this current crisis? >> he's never been officially wedded to that majority of the majority idea. that has certainly been his goal in most if not all of the legislation that he's brought to the floor. this and a few others have tested that goal for sure, but look, this is something that republican speakers, hastert included, starting with hastert, have wanted to do to make sure they have the support with within, to make sure that there isn't any kind of revolt, there isn't a question of their leadership. even though it has not been an easy road for john boehner, and that has been an understatement, i have not detected any real sentiment in the rank and file to have anybody but john boehner as their leader. to be honest with you, based on what boehner has gone through, it is hard to see anyone wanting th
.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to speaker boehner, if we go over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course they will. because republicans get blamed if it rains if washington. that shouldn't be the test here, it shouldn't be the consideration. but senator reid has had it
. >> months and months of talks between the president and boehner, both times boehner could not deliver because they refuse because of grover norquist to allow any tax revenues whatsoever. they cannot cross over the threshold that has been built by grover norquist. >> grover norquist joins us now exclusively here on cnbc. grover, we just heard you are the target of those comments, but did harry reid get it wrong, because i thought that your organization actually gave its blessing to boehner's plan "b." >> reid has it wrong on a number of levels. the first, of course, is that the pledge that many congressmen and senators have made to oppose tax increases is made to the people of their state, not to me. in fact, harry reid now has the republican senator joining him from nevada who won because he made that commitment. he took the pledge, and the democrat that harry reid supported attacked him for taking the pledge, and the people of nevada said we want a senator who will stand with us against harry reid's tax increases, so -- and, of course, the issue that came up with plan "b" which was m
out and showed an olive branch dejon banner ever since he has been in. -- john boehner ever since he has been in. president obama has tried to work with these people to get things done, and they will not work with him. host: let's hear from ron in appleton, wisconsin. caller: i woke up this morning, and i am an engineer, an african-american. i have been blessed with a good income. however, when i woke up this morning, though i feared my taxes going up considerably, i was a bit disappointed. the reason for that is that i'm looking long term. taxes, you have to pay for the debt that we have occurred. at this point, it does not matter how we got there. whether it is republicans and democrats or whatever -- it will take all of us to get out of it. it amazes me that everyone wants everyone else to sacrifice, but when it comes to me, i do not want to give that up. at this point, ok, if you are raising my taxes, ok, but make sure that we take care of the debt. that is the big thing. i'm thinking and 10-20 years down the road. i'm not be around then, but my children will be. host: ok, i appr
side today, say midday. that's entirely possible, but, first, house speaker john boehner has to take this deal that was struck in the senate and he will meet with his conference with house republicans and he'll try to get some buy in. explain it to them, have an exchange of ideas and see where they are. you know some of the rank and file house republicans have not been easy to please in this process. so the president, of course, wants this to move through the house quickly. he said neither democrats nor republicans got everything they wanted this agreement is the right thing to do for our country and the house should pass it without the play. if the speaker goes before the conference, perhaps they will try to change it to be more to their liking. amend it, send it back to the senate. and that would sort of prolong the process of going back and forth. and also yes, you mentioned the spending cuts being deferred, but only for two months, john. two months. that means we'll be hanging out a lot talking about some of the stuff we've been talking about now you for months, as it is. >> that
, republicans caved in, and scheduled a vote, john boehner did on that senate bill that passed 89-8 the senate passed it on new year's day. the house caved in -- actually -- yeah, it was early, early in the morning on new year's day late last night at about 11:00 the house caved in passed a vote, and passed the senate version, and president obama says he will sign it. we'll get into all of that and of course take your calls at 866-55-press. good to be with you here today. we're coming to you live on current tv, on your local progressive talk radio station and live on sirris tv for this hour only. peter ogburn, and dan henning here. >> we have been working hard. me and phone man phil have been holding down the fort. >> and our videographer siprion bolling who had a couple of days off as well. and we're all back. happy team. happy new year's eve. we celebrated with the millions of people in time square. the whole countdown. [ cheers ] >> that's not as boisterous as i'm used to hearing. >> stephanie: no. no. [ auld lang syne playing ] >> bill: maybe it is harder for
had a day off the fiscal cliff. so there's that. representative john boehner told senator reid to go f himself. twice. >> really? >> according to the folks at politico. so i'm shush we'll be talking about that if stephanie gets here. hoping and praying she gets here. happy new year to everyone out there. yeah, jacki schechner -- >> happy new year. >> happy new year to you too. >> some things don't change. you like to step all over my news before i start. >> oh, geez, did i do that? oh god! okay. there's stephanie. >> stephanie: happy new year. >> let's go to jacki schechner in the current news year. >> whatever, steph. thanks for joining us! good morning everyone. happy new year to you. not only did congress wait until the very last minute to come to a deal to stave off the fiscal cliff but by all accounts, nobody is generally thrilled with what they came to or how it happened. in fact, as chris just mentioned, several sources reporting this morning that house speaker john boehner told senate majority
have to get onto the house floor. why would speaker boehner put it on the house floor? that's not in his interest. no republicans want that. so it's never going to happen politically. so when he calls for it to happen, he's simply telling the american public look -- these republicans are obstructing an idea. it gives him the potential to eventually make the argument that republicans obstruct an idea that he thinks could win and republicans will say well that's ridiculous because we object to it on principle and that's why we're objecting to it procedurally. does that make sense? >> jessica, stay there. thanks for your explanation. i want to bring in the rest of our panel. ken rogoff, harvard university, former chief economist at the international monetary fund, annie lowry an economic policy reporter for "the new york times." steven moore, editorial writer for "the wall street journal." ken, you tear financial crisis guru here. forget the politics. just give us the math. if washington fails to avert the cliff, the worst-case scenario will be the combination of tax hikes and
boehner. they will blame the president. he has political capital that could evaporate. i'm not sure if he gets what he wants -- that is not how american politics necessarily works. host: what led to this meeting? harry reid was sounding pessimistic early in the day. then john boehner calling the house back sunday evening with a vote scheduled after 6:00 p.m., setting up a late sunday session or a lot of fireworks on monday. guest: the redskins-cowboys game is on sunday night. each side staked out a public position it had to stake out. use it at the end there's a sentence saying, but we will talk or negotiate. nothing unusual here to me. i think right now they are doing what they have to do publicly. we do not know what those people in the room at the white house are going to say and that is the key. host: the speaker will attend this meeting. he said the house has passed legislation to avert the fiscal cliff. now the senate must act. senator reid said it is up to the house. explain what is going on. guest: i cannot read john boehner's mind. let's say the senate takes up something where yo
. that was in the context of a big deal with speaker boehner. now we're talking about the mini deal. the patch to get us through the new year. so democrats argue that this doesn't even have the votes to pass the house and the senate as dana says, it's a quote poison pill in the eyes of the democrats. we can continue to discuss that. i just want to bring awe little bit of news, if i may. while this all is as you put it, i think in very clearly, quote, disgusting and everything is moving very slowly. there is one potential glimmer of light. and that is, that senate minority leader, of the republican, mitch mcconnell and vice president biden have spoken. they've spoken twice. and the two of them have a history of cutting deals together. they were able to cobble together the debt deal that got us through the debt negotiations and kept the country from defaulting back in the summer of 2011. does this mean it will happen again? no. but it at least means there is a line of communication open between democrats and senior democrat and republican and the possibility that who knows, maybe there could be a path for
party? didn't boehner try to go around them basically? >> i think the tea party has been weakened significantly in the last presidential election. only 21% of americans said they identified as supporters of the tea party. their kind of control over the republican party is substantially weaker. i do think you have hit tonight head, margaret. there's a centralized feel being among democrats that they can make compromises and they will not pay the ultimate price for that compromise. that is no longer something that is in the kind of dna of the republican party. we don't need to make any kind of false equivalencies here, this is a republican problem. they are no longer able to govern as a kind of full fledged party. >> charles, there's one economic argument that has come apart here and that is the tea party conservative republican argument that we want a government that spends money responsibly, doesn't overtax people. that got divorced from the idea that we ended up with people defend being the rights of people who earn more than $500,000 a year not to pay 4.6 percentage points highe
that john boehner and the president would discuss things, they would go back to their party. plan b, his caucus said no. things took a different turn today. we heard from a number of democrats, including robert reich on the show just a while ago, but we heard from democratic senators who said everyone is worrying about republicans saying no to this deal. there may be enough democrats to want to say no to it. is there a threat that the democrats might settle the deal? >> that is the concern. now, it's not something that the white house is opening talking about, but that is exactly why there is sort of this pressure to get this resolved right now, because there's momentum, they want to act on it fast, get it done, get it done because if we go over the cliff, democrat s will feel they have more leverage to settle the deal and draw this out into a longer battle. i will point out to you that the treasury secretary has already sent out a letter saying he's taking extraordinary measures now to extend the nation's credit because our debt limit has been reached. so we are already in this period w
christmas break. the house disappeared for the holidays after boehner's plan "b" failed. where is the sense of urgency? everyone is home at night and hopefully we're all putting our hopes on mcconnell and joe biden having a productive dinner, but by god, to your point, this has been going on for not just weeks or months, but years. and the fact that they're trying to cobble together some kind of patch to avoid the political pain and the economic pain more importantly to the country that's set to kick in tomorrow night at midnight is, frankly, pathetic, and it's a political problem, but it's an economic problem, and it's entirely self-created. when marshall blackburn was talking earlier and trying to blame the senate, look at the mirror. don't block at the other guy radio right now. you have to own this, and if particularly in the house of representatives because it's the republicans in the house that have been the biggest stumbling block. we got 98% agreement, both parties and the president agree 98% of americans shouldn't have their taxes raised and yet we're stalled. >> let me talk about
hear is the senate leaders are there. speaker boehner and minority leader nancy pelosi have yet to arrive, but now we're showing you live pictures. maybe somebody is going to get out of that car, and we'll see if any of the other leaders will be heading to the white house. this is speaker boehner right now heading into the white house. we'll keep you updated as this hour progresses here. >> indeed, meantime, more red arrows here on wall street as investors are awaiting for any signs of progress from the white house meeting which is about to get under way. right now we're sitting smack on 13,000. we've clawed back from being below that earlier on today. the nasdaq has also moved to the downside by half a percent as we speak. the s&p 500, as we speak, folks, is now down for the fifth straight day. i think it's down about 1.3% over the course of this week. so far let's see what happens over the last crucial hour of this trading day. >> so the clock is ticking. all eyes are on the white house. we've got i'm an javers there in washington as we wait for the white puff of smoke to come
of attention on john boehner and whether he's got the votes to pass the fiscal cliff plan. there are some in his own party who may stand in his way. that's coming up next. instead i got heartburn. [ horse neighs ] hold up partner. prilosec isn't for fast relief. try alka-seltzer. kills heartburn fast. yeehaw! >>> as we continue to keep an eye on the fiscal cliff, the republicans continue to meet behind closed doors, a meeting described as a bit noisy and excited. the democrats just finished their meeting with vice president joe biden. that was described as an evangelical meeting. still unclear whether a vote by the house will take place on the bill that was passed by the senate or whether in fact they will amend it and send it back to the senate. joining us from washington, bob cusack, the managing editor of the online journal the hill. and, so, bob what is the latest word you have as to what is going on and whether in fact john boehner can get his people together to vote for this? >> well, it is going to be very difficult. house republicans don't like the senate passed bill, even though
, and i'm not seeing any resolution. i don't think anyone else's either. >> speaker boehner had planned be on the floor last week. then he pulled it. he had 200 votes probably. had steny come to him and said we have democrats that would vote with you, the problem would have been over. do you think lyndon johnson would've been on the phone, had it been in the ring last week? of course he went. ronald reagan would've done the same thing. he recalled his spokesman said, look, needed to be with me on this. we will get some other stuff done later. the problem is the president will not engage. he wants it to happen. but he doesn't have his fingerprints on it because he knows whatever occurs is ultimately going to be unsatisfactory from other perspectives. but remember this, the fiscal cliff is a made-for-tv drama. the debt limit is real. gerri: yes, it is real. tomorrow the gop members will have a conference call about what to do next. what do you think you can accomplish? speaker boehner is probably stuck in ohio because the weather is so bad. a lot of yourself, who may not be able to get ba
leader mitch mcconnell. john boehner not in this, nancy pelosi isn't in this, not even the president. the house reconvenes at 10:00, the senate at 11:00, bright and early. sarcastic. neither of them showing particular signs of progress. >> these two worked together in the senate for 20 years. so you hope -- >> in fairness, the houses are not convening. these guys are not working. i don't care if it doesn't play out in the media. the big stumbling block has been avoided. republicans dropped their demand to reduce social security cost of living increases. >> i was really gratified to hear republicans had taken the demand for social security benefits off the table. truth is, they never should have been on the table to begin with there is still significant distance between the two sides, but negotiations continue. >> the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political messaging campaign. i'm interested in getting a result here. >> they have all been politically messaging, not sure why they are being critical of it now. thousands of there's of your t
at a time. it is john boehner. i am proud to work with him. >> is one particularly effective? >> one of the most important pieces of that is speakers who are willing to reach out to members and seek your advice and counsel and input, those speakers have a way of having a lasting impact upon the place. i have spent a number of years in the building. if sam raburn is not a reflection of that, i don't know who is. >> how about presidents under which you have served? >> ronald reagan. i had the honor of serving with him and he signed air quality district act for southern california. the first preschool program in the country was signed by ronald reagan. people hardly believed that but he was willing to use government in a way that was responsive to real challenged that government should be dealing with. i was proud that we had a chance to work together in connection with some of that. >> if you look across, it's a lot of history, 34 years altogether, is there a time when you look back and say those are the best years. those are the ones i enjoyed the most. >> every year that goes by it a
and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year's eve and house minority leader nancy pelosi
side under the leadership of speaker john boehner. i've talked to a couple of republicans this morning who are fairly optimistic that whatever comes out of the senate, whatever that deal is, it will pass the house this afternoon. although hard-core republican anti-tax folks are not going to vote for it. it still would likely have enough votes to pass. that's at least the mood of some folks i'm talking to today. guys, one of the big questions that's unresolved here was raised on a conference call with ceos arranged by the white house on friday night, on that white house conference call with ceos. one of the ceos asked tim geithner, i'm told by a participant on the call, whether a small deal would be enough to are prevent ratings agencies to downgrade u.s. debt. i'm told by this person on the call that the administration's response to that, they think a small deal would in fact be enough, but they wouldn't speak for the ratings agency. still a big unknown hanging out there, guys. >> and we know about some of the tough conversations we'll have 30 days from now, 45 days from now, eamon. it
forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the floor in the coming days. >> let's bring in a democratic senator, jeff merkley of oregon is joining us. you're getting ready to go into this democratic caucus meeting with the vice president, joe biden. what are you hearing right now? are you on board? >> we haven't heard the detail said, but there's three main things we want to nail down. first is fairness to people who versus those who are best off in society. the second is are we looking down the road to another fiscal cliff, such as sequestering or the dent ceiling kicking in a few month from now, and the third piece is is it financially responsible. are we producing a deal that will actually put us on a path to a financially stable future. those three things are the big questions that have been raised today that we have been raising, a number of us, with our elected leaders. they have been working to try to find a path that will address those. >> on those points, we seem to know, basically, what the deal is on the fairn
. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on sound financial footing. it's obvious what's going on around here. he is waiting until january 3 to get reelected as speaker before we get serious with the negotiations, because he has so many people over there that will not follow what he wants. that's obvious from the debacle that took place last week's. host: referring to the vote yesterday on speaker boehner's plan b. guest: they might feel they have better numbers in the house than they do now later. he would be able may be to push a plan through without as much republican support. i doubt it. it would be really risky move and then we are in early january without a deal still. host: that's what you wrote in the washington journal this morning -- the wall street journal. republicans participating in a conference call yesterday said -- guest: that's right. the republicans feel like if they wait this out, they might have a clean slate on the taxes to work with. it would not be accused of increasing taxes if taxes have already gon
than the norm. >> president obama and today's edition of "meet the press." speaker boehner in particular said "the president has never called for the senate to act on those bills, he has allowed the democratic controlled senate to lead our economy to the edge of the fiscal cliff. congress people from both parties are searching for a bipartisan solution. that is the leadership that america needs, not what we saw from the president this morning ." those of the comments from speaker boehner. the house has gaveled out. we expect them back in about two hours. let's go to newbury port. caller: thank you for c-span. i do not understand where this $250,000 number comes from. i am 70 and have never been asked to make a sacrifice by any congress. it just seems to me that if the average income in most states -- to ask people making $125,000 or more, to ask them to contribute more, that seems to be a no- brainer. i do not see why people in this country are not ready to make a compromise. let's face it, we will either all have to pay slightly more taxes and accept the fact that our bene
or six months, since july 25, speaker boehner could have brought the senate poifd middle-class tax cut legislation to a vote in the house and it would pass. but he's made the decision he's not going to let a vote on that because if he led he let it be voted upon, it would pass. i've said here, mr. president, it's not too late for the speaker to take up the senate-passed bill, but that time is even wiping down. today is thursday. he's going to give 48 hours' notice to the house before they come back so 48 hours from today is saturday. with just that one vote, middle-class families would have the security their taxes wouldn't go up by at least $2,200 on new year's day. that's the average. some would go up more, some less, of course. speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go, in fact. they're not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on a firm financial footing. it's obvious what's going on. he's waiting until january 3 to get reelected to speaker because
be a measure to require democratic support in the house which speaker boehner was not relying on then. you look at this lo the judgically, this is entirely possible to get through congress, the issue is, it is politically possible to get through congress? we don't know the answer to that. >> thank you, brianna keilar. >>> police are investigating whether nbc's david gregory violated d.c. gun laws when he displayed what he described as a 30-round magazine during a "meet the press" interview. >> here is a magazine that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible that we got rid of ese and said you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it possible we could reduce the carnage? >> i don't believe that will make one difference. >> we don't know if that was authentic or a prop, but having a large-capacity ammunition device like a magazine is illegal in washington, d.c. if it holds more than ten rounds of ammunition, whether or not it's attached to a firearm. >>> los angeles, pushing up its gun buyback, in light of the newtown massacre it was originally set for next may. in
boehner. so while some progressives are upset about that difference, the thing that the vice president heard about the most when he went to meet with democrats today was that democrats are upset about how this sets them up for the next fight, and that is the battle over the debt ceiling. and in two months time, the nation hits the debt limit again. this does not include a mechanism to avoid that fight. and there was a lot of concern about that. and the vice president had to take a lot of questions, about 45 minutes he took questions from about 20 different members and that, i'm told, was the top concern among democrats. the white house will just have to wage that balgtz whttle when comes some time in february. that's when the spending cuts that have been delayed also kick in. this will be a titanic battle in washington. we'll be standing on the lawn in capitol hill having this discussion all over again. instead of about tax increases, it will be about debt, deficit and the debt ceiling all over again, only that time the president says he is not going to have the fight. he's sort of imp
here, that he would sport -- support and that boehner would sport if it werehe reasonable. but right now we haven't heard anything. i don't know, and it's nonw e ot my business, i guess, if the speaker and the majority leaderl are even talking. i mean, what's going on here? mr. president, you can't legislate with yourself. we have nobody to work with, to compromise. that's what legislation's all'sw about, is the ability to is compromise. the republicans in the house have left town. l the negotiations between the president and the speaker haveet fallen apart as they have for the last three-and-a-half yearsa we've tried mightily to get something p done. i would just go over what the little drill here, mr. president, to remind everyoned how unreasonable the republicans been. senator conrad and jed gregg came up with a proposal to do pattern what they want to do after the base commission. they would report back to us, n, filibusters, no amendments likes we did with the base closing. and we did a great job there.hee we closed bases over two different cycles. so we brought that up here, i
and read this information. i would like just to quote from the let since to speaker boehn boehner, leader reid, pelosi and mcconnell from the director of national intelligence on this provision which authorizes surveillance directed at non-u.s. persons located overseas who are of foreign intelligence importance. and it goes on to say all of the process -- it's pages and pages. all of the process that is carried out, carried out in a classified forum, but to inform the members who are there essentially to provide the oversight. i mean we, the public. we are not of the intelligence community. we are the public. and it's our oversight, it is our due difficult again to go in and read the classified material. so this is an effort to make that material public. and i think it's a mistake at this particular time because i think it will chill the program. i think it will make us less security, not more security. and i'd respect fugging submit to the chair and inspection that terry to listen that part of our oversight is to see the best can that the intelligence provided by the 16 different intelli
plan b failed, boehner had a shot directly at grover. where is the next move? the debt ceiling? where do you make a stand? i thought this was the stand, and if you lost, you lost. it's okay to say that. you know, are you going to make a stand or even the grover norquist pledge a moving goalpost? >> charles, explain to me how we lost. as i mentioned before, we had a massive tax hike at midnight -- >> forget about that, what about the debt ceiling? are you taking a serious stand? >> absolutely. it is a good position that republicans are in now to cut the size of government. you know, we forget the debt limit was passed for years and years and years. once speaker boehner was in power, this was the first time we used the debt ceiling to try to cut the size of government, to reign in spending, and republicans now have an excellent opportunity to do that with the debt limit coming in a couple month as well as continuing resolution when government funding expires. these are two battles where republicans have leverage against democrats because we want to cut the size of government, and democr
've been let down time and again by speaker boehner. they've never been able to reach a deal with speaker boehner. and now with this news that the house is going to be breaking for the evening, it does look like that might happen again. now, there's one reason, wolf, why they are filling this package with measures that could appeal to democrats, not just, as you mentioned, increasing, letting taxes for the highest income earners go to clinton rates. also extending unemployment benefits. but also it includes tuition credits and tax credits for kids because these are designed to woo democratic votes. they need as many democrats to support this as possible. >> they need a combination of 218 in the house of representatives. that vote is not going to happen, clearly, today. as you know, jessica, the president now facing some criticism over the remarks he made over at the white house earlier in the day. walk us through what the political calculations were in his decision to go out and do that speaking event earlier in the day. >> reporter: well, it was a two-pronged effort, right. on one hand,
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